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Greece preparing for war with neighbouring Macedonia or Turkey? June 30, 2009

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Greece is holding strong among the world’s top spenders on weapons imports

Greece has made it into the world’s Top 5 on the weapons importers’ list. Greece ranks fifth in the latest report by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, or SIPRI, in its Arms Transfers Database report released April 27.
“The arming of countries where there is war or the possibility of war is understandable. However, Greece and Greek Cyprus making such large military spending to buy weapons is not understandable. Can it be, that calculations of another ’fait accompli’ are being made?”

Greece’s problems with other countries, such as Macedonia and Albania, rather than disputes with Turkey in the Aegean that is prompting the increase in Greece’s weapons acquisitions. And [military] spending is done according to threat assessments.
Greece ranked as the fifth-largest recipient of conventional weapons between 2004 and 2008, after China, India, United Arab Emirates and South Korea. The country is responsible for 4 percent of the total global arms imports. It receives 31 percent of its weapons from Germany, 24 percent from the United States, and 24 percent from France.

According to SIPRI, in recent years Greece has become the largest importer of major conventional weapons in Europe. Greece has risen from being the world’s ninth-largest recipient of major conventional weapons for the period of 1995 to 2002 to fifth place for 2003 to 2008. Meanwhile, Turkey’s acquisition of conventional weapons has dropped in recent years.

Russia to sell BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles to Greece

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Russia and Greece are finalizing a contract on the delivery of 1,000 BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles to the Greek army, a Russian government official said on Monday.
Earlier reports said Russia was negotiating a contract to sell around 415 BMP-3M infantry fighting vehicles to Greece.
“We are going through the final stages of negotiations with Greece on the delivery of 1,000 BMP-3 vehicles. They [the Greeks] want to buy vehicles for both ground forces and naval infantry,” Vyacheslav Dzirkaln, deputy head of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, said in an exclusive interview with RIA Novosti.
The purchase would be one of the largest arms deals between Russia and a NATO member state. In the 1990s, Greece acquired over $1 billion worth of Russian weapons.

Greece is buying 415 Russian tanks

Greece is buying 415 Russian BMP-3 Infantry Fighting Vehicles for $4 million each. These are apparently the BMP-3M model, which has been upgraded with a new turret and engines. The electronics include an automatic fire control system, a gunner’s sight with a thermal imager and laser illuminator. The commander’s periscope has a laser infrared illuminator. There is a new ammunition loading system. The 100mm gun fires laser-guided projectiles, high explosive/fragmentation rounds, 30mm APSDS (Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot) rounds and two other ammo types.

As an alternative, you can have a 30mm automatic cannon. The basic armor protects against machine-guns rounds up to 12.7mm. Explosive reactive armor can be added. There is also an active anti-missile system, as well as air conditioning for the crew.

But the BMP-3 is a lightweight (19 tons) compared to Western vehicles like the U.S. M2Bradley (31 tons), and about 20 percent smaller (22 feet long, 10 feet wide and 7.5 feet high, compared to 21 feet long, 11 feet wide and 9.2 feet high). Moreover, while both have a crew of three (commander, driver and gunner) the BMP-3 sits seven, very uncomfortably, in the back, compared to six in the M2. The original BMP-3, which entered service 15 years ago, was an improvement over the original BMP-3 of the 1970s, but still cramped and uncomfortable for the passengers. The Russians believed the smaller size made it harder to hit, and cheaper to manufacture (20-40 percent cheaper, depending on add-ons). It’s the additional electronics and other gadgets which really drives up the costs of these vehicles.

Greece has, since the 1990s, bought over a billion dollars worth of Russian anti-aircraft systems and anti-tank missiles.


Greek-Cypriots to Purchase Russian T-80U Tanks

Russian TOR-M1 air defense systems, Kornet and Fagot antitank weapons, as well as air cushion landing craft Zubr are in service with the Greek Armed Forces.
The BMP-3M is the successor to the BMP-3, which entered service with the Soviet army in 1987. The vehicle features an upgraded turret with digital fire control system, additional armor protection, and more powerful engines.

The government of the Greek-dominated portion of Cyprus plans to purchase new armored vehicles for its armed forces. The Greek-Cypriot government will soon conclude a deal to acquire Russian-built tanks.

Under this contract, Russia will deliver an unspecified number of T-80U tanks to the Greek-Cypriot National Guard. The T-80U tanks are built by Omsk Transport Machine-Building Bureau.
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The island of Cyprus is divided into Greek and Turkish controlled sections.

Comments»

muglu's avatar 1. muglu - June 30, 2009

You guys are idiots. Since when is there an alliance between “macedonia” and Turkey? 5 plus centuries of Ottoman rule and now you are buddies? Macedonians can only hide behind the turkish skirt that used to rape and pillage them. Its like being in prison, when you are the whimp you need a big daddy to submit to.

megas alexandros greek macedon's avatar 2. megas alexandros greek macedon - July 25, 2009

GREEK MACEDONIA FOR EVER

kris's avatar kris - October 9, 2010

you are the occupant on that teritory..,so shat up!

Greek American's avatar 3. Greek American - September 1, 2009

Right, you have a banner with a picture of your country occupying 1/3 of mainland Greece, and you think Greece has no reason to feel threatened and arm itself?

Cyprus has had an invasion force occupying half the island for over 30 years, an invasion force that crushed their poorly equipped military when it landed, and they have no reason to feel they need to arm themselves?

This site is a joke. Who would have ever thought Slavic Macedonians would join forces with their former Turkish oppressors. But I guess your mutual hatred of Greece is that strong that you’re willing to do anything.

Yilan's avatar Yilan - September 1, 2009

The banner does not have anything occupying 1/3 of Greece, If you’re reffering to Makedonya, then it is the other way around, Greece is occupying land that rightfully belongs to the Macedonians.

Macedonians and Turks have lived together for 500 years, i feel sorry for the Macedonians, they endured more in 90 years than they did in over 500 years of Ottoman rule, who are the real oppressors?

stan maragos's avatar 4. stan maragos - March 19, 2010

greece will not attack FYROM because is not her style.never in the past went to war with a smaller country,thats TURKEYS MO,CYPRUS,or the Kurds, I wish the people of FYROM get together,and find a name for their country not offensive to greece.and make peace and live like friends.

maria kyriacou's avatar 5. maria kyriacou - April 29, 2010

hi My name is Maria Kyriacou,
And y farther was in the war Im so sad that my uncle Andrew kyriacou died becuase John kyriacou is my dad!
I wish all the turks would of just stayed back i have never seen Him im bettween 10-8
ANd im sad! I never got to see my uncle and i miss him!

aleksandar's avatar 6. aleksandar - June 8, 2010

The Ottoman Empire held under its rule almost the entire Balcans , not just Macedonia , but Greece too . The Turks are our brothers and I hope that one day we will live in one country united not because fear from the Greeks because we are not afraid of the Greeks , in fact I would say that you are afraid of us because you have occupied 1\2 of the Macedonian teritory . Did you forget what you did to the Macedonians ? The English saved you in the Second World War , the Macedonian partizans freed all of Macedonia , there were street thghts in Athens . My relatives died there .The English saved you you fascists . But we all saw what happened against Turkey . You can not fight alone . You need help . But against Turkey I do not think that someone will help you . Macedonia and Turkey UNITED

Πάνος's avatar 7. Πάνος - June 12, 2010

Aleksandar? Hahaha… The name “Alexander” (Αλέξανδρος) who means protector of the men! Tell me, ancient macedonians believes in greek gods, speak greek and have greek CULTURE? WHY? BECAUSE WAS GREEKS YOU IDIOT!
The propaganda will not pass!

gabriel's avatar 8. gabriel - June 27, 2010

Another propaganda blog. Since when Turkish are brothers with the people of Fyro”m”. If they were real macedonians how it possibly be friends with Turks??? It is just because that people that live in Vardaska Fyro@m@ are Bulgarians and Albanians in ethnicity. And of course most of the time Albanians and Bulgarians were friends and helped Turks and were often hostile to Greek people at Macedonia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Struggle_for_Macedonia
So its logical to feel them as allies and dream to attack Greece [and this article is a classic fascist propaganda way, to put to the others what you really do. But, away from the propaganda in this point there is the same crazy argument that the Greek Macedonia is occupied and there is an imaginary nation that should take back half of Greece. Where were these imaginary Macedonian (ethnic they called sometimes even if they are not one ethnicity) during the Balkan wars.
All historians know the truth, that Fyromians existed after Tito and the tribes and later ‘nations’ of today Skopje-Vardaska people are mainly Bulgarian and of Slavic origin similar to Serbs. Macedonians lived in macedonia 800+ years before you migrated to Balkans, and way before you invented photoshop maps and google to prove your existence thought your blogs, hahaha. There is no need to steal another’s identity to be a legal country in Balkans. We live in 2010 not in 1820-1900 to need to be the bloodline of someone ancient to have the right to form a country. That is your mistake. Of course i don’t expect to understand if I judge from the fact that you don’t know a thing about Alexander and I see the funny arguments that say Greek as if they are fascists, the same people that fight Fascist Italy, that passed thought Albania, fought Nazi Germany, and Bulgaria and suffered so much. Also when you speak about Ottoman rule don’t forget that Ottoman Turks conquered Skopje in 1392 beginning 520 years of Ottoman rule. They took the place from the Byzantines and earlier was in some period of Serbian rule, and from 972 to 992 it was the capital of the First Bulgarian Empire. This is your true story. No “alexandars” no “makedonski”. This is your Bulgarian/Ottoman brother story, don’t afraid of it.

Giorgos Dimitriadis fron Thessaloniki/Makedonia in Greece's avatar 9. Giorgos Dimitriadis fron Thessaloniki/Makedonia in Greece - June 27, 2010

who cares what they are saying….history can’t be overwriten…
FYROM is and will be a Protectorate of other countries.

it’s sad because they are people living next to us….but what can you do with this region? if theyr education is wrong…so they never can be a free nation of slavs. because they are slaves.

makedonians are a greek race…..just open any book, and look at all names, location etc…..and then look your people…names etc. then you will maybe se the true

so long slavs(slaves) of turkey

Jimmy from jo's avatar 10. Jimmy from jo - July 8, 2010

Macedonia???
Give us at least one ancient scripture in slavic, just one!
Whatever that is, on a statue, on a building, anything. And then I’ll give to the FYROM Gypsies Macedonia, Epirus and Thessaly together, as presents!!
Oh, too bad, all of them are in ancient Greek…

Jimmy from Jo'burg's avatar 11. Jimmy from Jo'burg - July 8, 2010

Macedonia???
Give us at least one ancient scripture in slavic kyrillic, just one!
Whatever that is, on a statue, on a building, anything. And then I’ll give to the FYROM Gypsies Macedonia, Epirus and Thessaly together, as presents!!
Oh, too bad, all of them are in ancient Greek…!
Or were ancient gypsie-“macedonians” so stupid to be ruled for OVER 2000 years from other tribes?? This aspect can’t stand, not even as a joke..

demis's avatar 12. demis - September 14, 2010

wery soon greece become big contry

Georgi's avatar 13. Georgi - December 10, 2010

Slavs come in Macedonia many years ago… if you want Macedonian script look at the Rosetta stone… there is Greek language (Macedonians respected Greeks many years ago) , there is Egyptian script and Macedonian witch is being just decoded… Google it 🙂
I am half Macedonian(by father) origin from Struga
and half Cypriot(by mother) origin from lefcosia
long leave Macedonia and Cyprus and the peace between all of us…
and look at the Olympic games… people from Greek tribes are written as Greeks… after Filip II conquered Greece Macedonians are in the Olympics too written as Macedonians 🙂
we are people leveeing in our country born in it you can’t make us hate our Macedonia… All you can do is block us and make us hate you 🙂

Kevin O'Riley.'s avatar 14. Kevin O'Riley. - April 7, 2011

Let me tell you how things should be done. First of all we need a small, twenty-Megaton Nuclear war-head, to wipe out all of you racist bigots. All the People in your histories are dead, and as such, all of you should be. Wake up to yourselves and live in todays world, and stop arguing over some goat shagging world of your past. Anyone of you that comes from or descended of those same goat-shaggers should get a knife and cut his own wrists, and do the rest of the world a big goat-shagging favour.
Aussie, oi oi oi.

Kevin O'Riley's avatar 15. Kevin O'Riley - April 7, 2011

Let me tell you how things should be done. First of all we need a small, twenty-Megaton Nuclear war-head, to wipe out all of you racist bigots. All the People in your histories are dead, and as such, all of you should be. Wake up to yourselves and live in todays world, and stop arguing over some goat shagging world of your past. Anyone of you that comes from or descended of those same goat-shaggers should get a knife and cut his own wrists, and do the rest of the world a big goat-shagging favour.
Aussie, Oi Oi Oi.

kevinoriley1's avatar 16. kevinoriley1 - April 7, 2011

Let me tell you how things should be done. First of all we need a small, twenty-Megaton nuclear warhead, to wipe out all of you racist bigots. All the People in your histories are dead, and as such, all of you should be. Wake up to yourselves and live in today’s world, and stop arguing over some goat-shagging world of your past. Anyone of you that comes from or descended of those same goat-shaggers should get a knife and cut his own wrists, and do the rest of the world a big goat-shagging favor.
Aussie, Oi Oi Oi.

otto zutz's avatar 17. otto zutz - November 6, 2012

Thank you for the good writeup. It in truth was a amusement account it. Look advanced to more brought agreeable from you! By the way, how can we be in contact?

ilias's avatar 18. ilias - November 14, 2012

i was born in thessaloniki capital of the greek reigion macedonia alexander was born just a few miles away from thessaloniki in pella no were in the boarders of ur fake country which was only established in 1922 when u spilt from bulgaria and king philp conquerd the city sates of greece to unite the greeks e.g macedonians spartans athenians tharceians etc to fight there enmy persia instead of greeks killing greeks which was happening for years befor that and thats were you monkeys try take advantage yous have no historical proof we do yous have no wrirtten languge of your own its slavic alexander spoke greek worshiped greek gods so did the whole reigion of macedon. you got told by a 14 year old MALAKAS


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